Stewardship Of Creation

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gregor.hoch

Apr 6, 11:32 AM

13" MBP uses SV chips, i.e. standard voltage (35W). Before it used MV (medium voltage, 25W) chips but Sandy Bridge does not offer CPUs like that. LV (25W) and ULV (17W) chips have not been released yet but will be released shortly like the article says.

If the clock speed and other specs are the same, then the performance is the same. ULV and LV chips are only separated by the TDP which causes the ULV to have lower clock speed. Otherwise they are the same chips.


So is that also true for the difference between SV and LV? If that is the case, the Core i7-2649M you cite above (2.3 LV chip) should be faster compared to the 2.3 i5 in the low end Pro 13?

Thanks!

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marksman

Mar 22, 03:04 PM

I don't get all the negative ratings/comments.

1. Competition is good (I know this is hardly an original point)



People keep saying that but in the smartphone market and now especially in the tablet market we have seen no evidence of that at all.

In the tablet market Apple has released an iPad and an iPad 2 with literally no competition to impact their design or product and they have both been home runs.

In the smart phone market, the iPhone came along and 4+ years later the only competition are all iPhone clones. There is no competition pushing or driving the market. Apple drives the market for both these segments and they do it regardless of what the competition is doing... and all the competition is doing in both cases is copying Apple, so that makes no difference at all.

So besides being cliche and tired, the competition is good mantra is not even accurate or true when it comes to these Apple market segments.

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JackSYi

Aug 6, 03:09 AM

I really think Apple should buy out Quicksilver and implement it with Spotlight.

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mccldwll

Apr 27, 08:38 AM

Apple's solution is fine by me. They wouldn't have done anything if there wasn't so much press about it, but I guess that's a good reason (one of the only ones) for the press to exist. Still, they all managed to get it a bit wrong, though. I noticed (like so many others out there), that the map wasn't recording my EXACT location, but just cell towers and wifi spots I may have accessed. The info didn't really bother me. It wasn't like it had me pegged at my local pub - or did it?!?! =)


I looked at the map from a recent road trip. It showed cell towers 50 miles off the route I was on--probably next towers over in case I headed that direction. It's the apple bashing trolls who are blowing this way out of proportion.

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0815

Mar 31, 06:18 PM

Tightening controls? How about Google having final right of refusal toward any mass production Bill of Materials for any Android phone going into production? That will keep the manufacturing accountants from screwing over the developers taking a $0.76 of parts out to save on a run but generate a million man hours of bug fixing in the third party developer community.

True - but what happend to the 'open is good', 'everyone can customize as they want', 'open is the freedom to do with it what you want'. The one big argument that was always made for Android is gone - it is no longer as open as people think. Anyway, 'open' was in this context anyway a hyped up buzzword ... I understood the 'open' argument since (with exception of the Nexus) everyone got dependent on what the provider chooses to adopt and what not. It is not good if the provider decides what to remove or add on top of the OS.

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mdntcallr

Jul 27, 11:39 AM

No that isn't true. The desktop Macs have socketed processors but the portables are soldered to the logic board - there are sites that do dissections of new machines and they confirmed it.

Replaceable: iMac, Mac mini
Soldered: MacBook, MacBook Pro.

Please don't post false and misleading information.

Chundles and the others are right. THE CPU is SOLDERED on to the logic board.

That said, it does NOT mean the CPU cannot be upgraded. There are mac upgrade companies which are soon to launch services where you can fedex in your laptop in, and within days, they will replace the cpu, solder expertly on a new one, and you will be very happy with a new / faster CPU.

honestly, right now i do not believe the power differential to be worth it. it would be better to wait for chips with a larger speed differential.

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ChrisTX

Apr 11, 09:22 PM

Why wouldn't Apple also just release a VZ iPhone 5 in June/July time frame also. It shouldn't matter that VZ was late to the party and only just now got the iPhone. Apple has made their money off the VZ folks that have been waiting forever for the iPhone, and then June/July Apple can make their money off the rest. I recently just got my iPhone 4 replaced for free by Apple due to a faulty sleep/wake button, so I'm more concerned with iOS 5, but I still want to see new Apple hardware soon!

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ezekielrage_99

Aug 27, 06:59 PM

i like the powerbook g5 jokes and have been around for a long time if that helps

I like them as well, but I think it's been replaced with Merom next tuesday, G6 Video iPod next next tuesday and the good old iPhone next tuesday rumors.

Still good for a laugh ;)

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LarryC

Mar 26, 01:12 AM

im using snow leopard, will all my documents and apps gone if i upgrade to lion ?

The short answer is no. There are always different types of installation. One is called archive and install. You really should have your things backed up to another hard drive or to disc just in case anything goes wrong. Actually everybody "should" have all of their data backed up to a reliable source at all times.

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iMikeT

Sep 19, 04:28 AM

I sure hope that the MacBook (regular) line is update at next week's conference. That way, the MacBook my girlfriend just bought can get a Core 2 Duo update.

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jeffereyj

Apr 6, 01:12 PM

sorry but if you're trying to do "pro" work on a MBA, ur doin it wrong.

i'm glad Apple has their MBA line for ultra-portability, plus the MBP line for intensive portable work.

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macfan881

Nov 15, 10:42 PM

Sony did a smart move putting out on the 24th this thing will sell like hotcakes on black Friday and I'm sure will move alot of ps3's with that bundle and a PS Move bundle expect to see alot of ps3's sold for thanksgiving weekend till Christmas.

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obeygiant

Apr 27, 01:43 PM

Hey! The birth issue is closed! End of story! I am yelling this!









boo-hoo my all-caps was undid. :(

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twoodcc

Aug 8, 02:42 PM

I've seen several people saying that it's starting to be a car encyclopedia rather than an enjoyable racing game. I kinda agree with that. My last experience with GT is GT2 on PS1 I think but I'm looking forward on this game. Hopefully it will be what I expect, a good, solid driving game. I hope they have spent time on the actual driving too, not just with the cars and 3D stuff etc

i don't know, i still think the Gran Turismo series is the best as far as real driving simulation. by far. and the number of copies sold backs that up

me too!! i am So excited! i wont pre order or anything, might save for a steering wheel though. :)

yeah i still might pre-order the special edition one. i'm not sure yet

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samcraig

Apr 27, 09:10 AM

Side story: the credit card companies know exactly where I am better then the cell companies. Every time I swipe my credit or debit card, they know where I am. When I travel for vacation, I am very likely to get a call from my credit card company (on my cell) asking where, when and how long I will be traveling. They know every store and every purchase I've ever made on a credit card.

again - when you make a purchase - you know you're being logged. If you use cash - your CC doesn't know where you are.

Apple's bug saved coordinates whether or not you had locations services on or off. It's different.

The OPTION is what's important and Apple agrees, hence the bug fix. If it was soley a "feature" - they would have stated that the file is required and they cannot offer a way to remove it, yadda yadda

Those that still argue against the solution remind me of the threads on the iPad board. When it was suggested that the iPad needed a camera - so many people were screaming that it's ridiculous for the iPad to have a camera citing form factor, useless feature, stupid suggestion, etc. I argued that having a camera makes sense and for those that wouldn't use it - don't use it.

Same here. Apple will give (actually fix) the ability to turn location services on or off. Use it or not. I'm happy there's an OPTION

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kcmac

Apr 27, 10:09 AM

I think that a lot of people forget that the first iPhone did not have GPS. It helped you find where you were by locating Wi-Fi hotspots and triangulating cell towers. Sometimes it would get you pretty close to where you were but sometimes the results could be fairly maddening. We always referred to this as fake GPS back then.

Now with the combination of real GPS and these other two methods, it is a very accurate system. And fast. I believe Apples description and only hope that the software update does not reduce speed or accuracy of what I have now come to expect.

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Matthew Yohe

Apr 7, 10:41 PM

:mad:Best Buy told me today that they had them in but Apple would not let them sell them. I have been going for two weeks every other day and they finally tell me they have them and can't sell them. I hate this crap. I want my IPad 2.

Well of course they say they have it now, because they can't sell you any. They also probably had it the various times you went in, and yet lied to you.

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thunng8

Aug 31, 09:15 PM

Check it out!

http://barefeats.com/quad06.html


The 3 ghz Mac Pro is neck and neck with the G5 Quad in the Adobe benchmarks, sick considering the fact it's running under rosetta!!

It is worth noting that Barefeats has updated their comparison using much more typical photoshop operations:

http://www.barefeats.com/quad11.html

Which shows a much different picture, with the PowerPC models outperforming the MacPro by a significant margin.

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ezekielrage_99

Sep 13, 08:14 AM

Do you really need that amount of power? I'm guessing yes ;)

I'd love to see the performance on the Clovertown Mac Pro.

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mkruck

Apr 6, 03:48 PM

There is no reasoning with you. :)
I will stay with my walled fromage garden while you enjoy your open cheeseless wasteland!

I'm sorry, but you're just not being inflammatory enough. We must fling verbal poop at each other, belittle each other's mores and values, and speak in condescending tones at all times!!!

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MatthewCobb

Aug 27, 04:28 PM

That is interesting because I ordered a Macbook on Tuesday (the 22nd) and mine is also scheduled to ship on the 31st. It is suspiciously strange and hopefully it means that we'll get Meroms because I was waiting for the Merom MBP when I decided to just order a Yonah MB.

I ordered a MB on 15 August from my work. Apple registered the order on 23 August (it was faxed on the 16th!)... It will be delivered on 1 September. I phoned up to find out what was going on and complained it was taking forever. Maybe I should have said thankyou!

On the other hand, I have heard that Apple want to emphasise the difference of the MBP (why buy one unless you're doing 3-D gaming or heavy-duty video editing or just like aluminium...?). So maybe they'll just put the Merom in the MBP...

PS I thought the PB G5 next Tuesday thing was quite funny - precisely because it has been done to death, first dead straight (remember how excited people got for so many years), and now because it's a useful reminder not to take our speculations too seriously...

PPS I have skanky keyboard marks all over my squidgy PBG4 screen, always have had. Grrr.

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dougny

Nov 29, 09:17 AM

Given your stance, I wonder how you feel about public libraries offering whole collections of CDs for patrons to "borrow". I think we all know what (many, not all) people are really doing with those CDs when they borrow them. Shouldn't we be doing something about these public institutions turning a blind eye to what is essentially sanctioned piracy?

Yes, I think those copies should be copy-protected.

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Popeye206

Apr 25, 02:06 PM

UGH! That didn't take long before the sharks swarmed!

How ridiculous. :rolleyes:

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dejunky

Apr 6, 02:54 PM

And THAT's why I didn't jump the gun on a MBA yet. Now give me the new processors, and a backlit keyboard, and Apple's got my $.

(Be nice if they could bump up the battery life on the 11 too)

I couldn't have said it better myself!

Although I would change the $ to a � ;-)

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